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Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:18 pm
by hengcs
Director: Tsai Ming Liang
Cast: Lee Kang Sheng, Chen Hsiang Chyi

At the Berlin International Film Festival 2005, it won the
-- Silver Bear for An Outstanding Single Achievement , and
-- Alfred-Bauer Prize
see
www.berlinale.de/en/archi..._2005.html

It was also awarded the FIPRESCI Prize (competitive section) .

Like most of Tsais film, the simplicity of the storyline suggests that it is NOT plot driven, but rather character driven or even mood driven. In essence, the story involves two people who fell in love but did not know how to express themselves. Nonetheless, the film is rather thought provoking

What I like
-- The film is full of symbolisms, messages, and food for thoughts
e.g., the use of images yup, you will see several clouds except actual clouds in the film but isnt everyone a cloud? We presume we can drift freely, but like clouds, we need the wind and what happens when two clouds collide?
e.g., wow the metaphoric use of watermelon go watch
* yup, you will never view watermelon the same way again ha ha ha *

e.g., the setting against a hot summer drought and thirst symbolizing the drought/lack of love and the thirst/quest for love
e.g., the age old question of love and s**: is there love in s**, does love require s**, is it love or lust? etc ...
-- The songs in the musical interludes are actually rather classic and not crude (at least I used to think so), but the way they were interpreted and choreographed in the musical sequences was very comical indeed.
* Hmmm merely for a good laugh? Or is life, love and s** simply laughable?! *
-- The BEST scene in the movie
* drum roll *
in my very humble opinion, it is actually the LAST scene
oh, I know some people walked out of the theater, some people are going to grumble, some people are going to complain or feel disgusted
But frankly, if you think about the entire film, it is among the SADDEST scenes

What may be problematic for some people
-- Hmmm some people may feel offended by certain scenes, dismissing them as pornographic or crude. Like many controversial films, the line between art and pornography is really thin
-- Like most of Tsais films, it is again long and slow, with few dialogues
-- Like most of Tsais films, he uses the same cast (again?!) so, one may regard this as a continuation of the previous film What Time Is It There?
* yup, there are some references to it *
or if you do not like, regard this as a separate film

Food for thought:
By leaving several things unexplained and ambiguous, the director has allowed audience to exercise their own interpretation and judgment. While some people may complain about the non closure or unexplained events, art film moviegoers seem to embrace it

I have always wondered,
-- is it easier and wiser for a director to leave things unexplained so that most audience would assume the director is interpreting the scenes like the way they do, thereby pleasing most instead of explaining what happens and disappointing audience with his/her own take
e.g., what happened to the actress who made porn video
* a different interpretation would deliver a slightly different message! *

Conclusion:
-- I think it is an excellent film in terms of symbolism and messages
-- However, one has to get used to the directors style of filming and certain explicit scenes

Note: The DVD has English subtitles

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:25 pm
by A
If I had had the opportunity to have been at this years Berlinale, and I could have seen only one film from all sections, it would have without any doubt been this one. I`m dying to see Tsai`s latest, and from what excerpts I`ve seen from the movie, it seems great to me
Where is the DVD available?
Could you please post a link?

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:42 pm
by hengcs
Here you go
global.yesasia.com/en/Prd...s/did-106/

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:54 am
by arsaib4
"wow the metaphoric use of watermelon go watch
* yup, you will never view watermelon the same way again ha ha ha *"

The second scene in the film is one of the most outlandish ever shot. I won't give it away but yes, it involves a watermelon. It's not possible for me from now on to eat a watermelon and not think of this film. If you guys recall, in most of Tsai's other films, there's a lot of rain. In The Wayward Cloud, Taipei is going through a drought.

"The songs in the musical interludes are actually rather classic and not crude (at least I used to think so), but the way they were interpreted and choreographed in the musical sequences was very comical indeed."

They were shot like Bollywood numbers, although I don't think I've ever seen one involving a giant penis!

All I'll add for now is that the final sequence of the film will be talked about for years to come.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:33 pm
by trevor826
Okay I'm sold, I've just sent off for the DVD. It sounds incredibly different from any of his other films, at least in terms of presentation.

Cheers Trev.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:56 pm
by hengcs
oh no ...
will we be slammed by watermelons if he doesn't like the film?
* hurry ... run *

as usual,
-- never expect too much from the film and you will likely like it ...
-- expect too much, you will likely be disappointed ...

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:00 pm
by A
Ok, i think I will wait for my videorental store to have it (probably in fall), and I'll try to lower my expectations until then.
Nah, it's really I'm broke, and I can't afford buying things, though I must say I considered ordering it for a while...
But then, what will I eat?

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:36 pm
by arsaib4
I think Tsai is one of the few filmmakers in the world whose work can meet any expectations no matter how high they are. He's simply not capable of making a "bad" film. He'll continue to use the same actors, have similar set-ups, and that's why he's the possessor of one of the most consistent oeuvres in the history of cinema.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:17 pm
by A
You're absolutely right with your observations.
I also think that the director-actor relationship of Tsai ming-liang and lee kang-sheng has contributed much to the qualities of their films, and is one of the best creative relationships in film history.
And after having seen Lee's "The Missing" which is the best film I've seen this year (though it hasn't come to cinemas yet), I wonder who influenced who, as i think "The Missing" is at least as good as Tsai's films.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:36 pm
by hengcs
Hmmm ... pardon me if I am wrong ...

But Tsai's films tend to please only film festivals, critics, and maybe art film moviegoers ...

If I am correct, many (at least a substantial number) of Chinese mainstream moviegoers do not really like his films. That is why his films are usually not box office hits ... often they do not survive many screenings ...

Yup, you guess it, the same old complaints are:
-- too long and too slow
-- not much plot and not much dialogues
-- same cast
-- not sure what he is driving at, etc

Sorry ... I am just sharing what I observe in the Chinese community ...