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Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:36 pm
by arsaib4
Well, mainstream film-goers in almost all countries don't like, or even know about, their true filmmakers. It's not just China. And as you know, there's no relation whatsoever between a film's b.0. success and its quality.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:41 am
by trevor826
Very true arsaib4, I'm certainly guilty of this with the likes of Mike Leigh and Ken Loach, although the latter has made himself more appetizing to the general cinema goer in the UK with "Ae Fond Kiss", with these two it's a case of being faced with aspects of our own society that we would rather sweep under the carpet.

I also made the same point when talking about the Zatoichi films and the fact that they were far more popular with the Japanese audiences than
Kurosawa's films were.

Anyway after seeing "What time is it There", "Vive L'Amour" and "The River" I can say I appreciate his work. Unless of course he's done a Moodysson (which I'll try and see on DVD)!

Cheers Trev.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:53 am
by arsaib4
Speaking of Moodysson, we need to go into The Hole (pun intended), but I'll wait till you get back.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:42 am
by trevor826
Okay I'm back, still waiting for the Wayward Cloud to drift by, talking about melons though, what's the thing with Japanese and Watermelons on the beach?

Cheers Trev.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:48 pm
by trevor826
On a quick scan to make sure the disc worked I was faced with The Watermelon. Oh my!

Cheers Trev.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:09 am
by arsaib4
Didn't you make a post on Moodysson's film somewhere?

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:26 pm
by trevor826
Re: A Hole in my Heart.

Yes it was one that vanished along with most of our data, I remember saying that it was like being pumelled round the head with a sledge hammer and that I had to leave after about 30 mins because the incredibly loud use of white noise had given me a crashing headache.

Still I bought the DVD yesterday for 5.00 so I'll be able to give it another go.

Cheers Trev.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:10 pm
by trevor826
Okay I've finally had the chance to watch it, I agree with most of hengcs comments but I don't see how anyone could regard it as pornographic, sure there are the scenes which obviously represent making a porn film but I've seen more explicit nudity in some pop promos.

Come to think of it, a few people are bound to think it's sick and pornographic without even seeing it!

The musical numbers, great idea like a cross between a Bollywood film and some Thai films. Strange film in some ways, very sad yet incredibly joyous, beautiful at times and gross at others, just goes to show how many different uses there are for Water Melons!

Thanks guys, great film for the more broad minded and those who like their films crammed full of metaphores.

Cheers Trev.

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:23 pm
by hengcs

*phew*
luckily you like the film, otherwise we will be blamed for wasting your money ...
ha ha ha

Re: Tian Bian Yi Duo Yun (The Wayward Cloud) (2005) (Taiwan)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:46 pm
by trevor826
Yes I would have copied the Japanese, crossed the Atlantic and found a not so metaphorical use for a water melon and baseball bat(see Kikujiro).

No don't be daft, a couple of positive comments from the motley crew here is always a good recommendation.

Cheers Trev.