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Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:10 am
by hengcs

Director: Roman Polanski
Cast: Ben Kingsley, Barney Clark

As I like novels by Charles Dickens, I will definitely watch the film.

The website and trailer in English is here ...
www.sony.com/olivertwist

Re: Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:09 am
by Unregistered(d)
Please send ASAP the Oliver Twist Instruction guides and material for offering the class the best background to enhance their ability to discuss and write about the film and story of Oliver Twist, including economics, the difference in 1837 England and U.S. today and what still needs to be done to improve and prepare students for future lives and careers.
Not enough changes and our students not prepared to be able to survive in today's world. Especiall in CA which is 50th in U.S. in education.
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Re: Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:46 am
by hengcs

Pardon my ignorance,
but I do not get what you want ...
Please kindly explain ...

Re: Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:34 am
by trevor826
I think (hope) somebody's just a little muddled.

Cheers Trev.

Re: Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:01 am
by hengcs

Director: Roman Polanski
Cast: Ben Kingsley, Barney Clark

The website and trailer in English is here ...
www.sony.com/olivertwist

My thoughts ...

-- In my humble opinion, the director should have "exploited" the drama ... the problem (if any) is that ...
... the funny moments are not comical enough
e.g., when Fagin and the children demonstrated their game of "stealing" ...
... and the scary moments are not menacing enough
e.g., the asking for "MORE" scene in the beginning ...
e.g., the dog ...
Without manipulating the emotions of the audience, the film looks great cinematographically (though it might be too colourful/clean for effectively conveying the grimness/darkness of the society then) ... but it fails to grip the audience emotionally ...

-- Well, enough people have commended on the performance of Ben Kingsley (as Fagin) or Jamie Foreman (as Bill Sikes) ... but allow me to also commend on the performance of Barney Clark too (as Oliver) ... he does have a good range of emotions ... and yes, he does have a melancholy look ... some scenes are especially memorable
e.g., the scene when he was drunk
e.g., the scene when he was shot
However, unlike other recent child actors (e.g., in The Sixth Sense, in Finding Neverland, in The Return, etc), there is no 1 particular scene that is so tearful that it will wrench the audience's hearts (except for the gunshot scene probably) ... is it because Oliver comes across as a "strong" character who does not need the audience to worry for him??? or is it because of problems with the director's approach ... his story telling is less than gripping??

In essence, I want to defend and commend that Barney Clark can act ...

but I guess he does not have a "trademark" scene in this film which steals the audience ... so he will likely miss nominations for any awards ... mainly due to not enough "heart wrenching" moments ...

Interview with Barney Clark
www.bbc.co.uk/films/2005/...view.shtml
www.cinecon.com/news.php?id=0509307

-- There are a few other scenes that are good too ...
e.g., when Bill was about to club Nancy
e.g., the final scene when Bill missed the jump ...

-- Overall, it is a simple piece of work to understand ...
-- It is faithful to the book ...

Conclusion:
It just comes across as a watchable film ...
in my humble opinion, there could be more "drama"/"emotional scenes" that wrench the audience's hearts ...

Re: Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:47 pm
by SenileFelines
You forgot to mention the third best performance in the movie, after Fagin and Bill, I think the kid who played the Artful Dodger was great.

I didn't like Barney Clark at all. Very melancholy, yes. But the way he spoke was very unconvincing. It felt uncomfortable watching him. His scene at the very end was pretty good though.

Besides that, I agree with your overall thoughts about the film.

I still adore the musical version "Oliver!" I think that movie had the best Fagin, Bill, Nancy, Oliver and Artful Dodger than any other Oliver Twist adaptations. The ending was also great.

Re: Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:19 am
by hengcs

Hi SenileFelines,

It is nice to see you posting again ...
I do recall you participating in one of the quizes, but have stopped doing so ...

Hope to see you around ...

Re: Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:08 am
by wpqx
I watched the film today and it seemed a little unnecessary. Polanski was in top form with the Pianist, and although there are some similarities to Polanski's own childhood in Oliver Twist (mainly being an orphan) it doesn't ring as true as that previous film. It was uneven, and seemed like nothing new.

Re: Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:56 am
by arsaib4
Yes, Oliver Twist isn't as important as The Pianist, but I don't believe that it was meant to be so. It's a smaller film in every capacity. It ran a little too long, and I think I said somewhere that it "never quite comes to life"; however, I still consider it a minor achievement in Polanski continually fascinating oeuvre. It was a grinding, workmanlike effort.

Re: Oliver Twist (2005) (UK)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:59 pm
by wpqx
I would agree with all of that.