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Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:00 pm
by A
275??
Oh my god, you have watched..., I don't know what to say. I don't know if I have seen more than 100 films from any year overall!
I think my maximum "new" cinema/DVD releases I've watched in a single year is maybe 2005 with 50.
And I don't think I'll make more in the future (that is, if I don't become a "professional" reviewer )
Though I usually watch about 400 films a year, I prefer watching older films, or rewatch some of the ones i've already seen.
Are you keeping a "viewing log" for all the stuff you watch. I would love to see it.

Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:29 pm
by arsaib4


Yeah, 275 is a bit much. But since I contribute to the school paper from time-to-time, I get to watch most new films for free. But I've already started to cut down this year. As you know, I don't post many lists, and that's because I don't make many. Last year was the first time I kept a journal of all the 2005 releases that I watched. (I'm a bit old school in that regard so it was done with pencil and paper.) I am in the process of transferring it, so I'll either post it here or send it to you.

Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:53 pm
by Anasazie
A bit much? I'm worried about you seeing that many films. Do you work as a reviewer?

I can't even imagine why someone would want to watch that many new films, you must've seen lots of bad ones? How about a list of dire films you saw in 2005? that'd be interesting. Do you watch everything that gets released or just go to all the festivals in North America?

Also, just wondering what you liked about 9 Songs.

Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 1:03 am
by A
@arsaib
I'll try to open a "new" viewing log thread, after I finally complete my notes`on January (the other months will follow). Maybe you can post it there?
I think that my viwing log thread for 2005 should be somewhere in the best & worst Forum. You could also post there.
But sending it to me via mail would be great.
Already thanks for your efforts.

Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:01 am
by arsaib4
9 Songs was an honest attempt by Winterbottom to examine a relationship which is purely based on physical attraction. And the means he employed was at once obvious and quite unique: sex. He wasn't totally successful, because ultimately characters were required to channel their emotions through their "body language," and he didn't quite have the actors to do so, which is what, say, Chereau (Intimacy) and Tsai (The Wayward Cloud) had. But still, the film eventually did develop an emotional resonance. And as is the case with most Winterbottom films, it was technically brilliant. (I also shouldn't forget the music.)

Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 3:07 am
by Anasazie
mmm...."attempt" being the operative word (as with most Winterbottom films). the music was the only good part. I agree that he wasn't successful, completely unsuccessful to the point of ridiculousness actually. Technically brilliant though? are you joking. I thought it was quite badly filmed and edited, as with most Winterbottom films. Also, as with most Winterbottom films, he seems to think that the conception is enough, he's a lazy film-maker. Neither of the characters explored anything other than a bunch of decent bands in this film. Not only did he not have the actors of Tsai or Chereau, he doesn't have the talent as a film-maker either. I didn't see any emotional resonance at all, the voice over was so heavy-handed. Comparing the Antarctic to two lovers in a bed is fine if it's done visually, but then to slam us over the head with it through the voice over too just shows such a lack of respect for the viewers ability to think for themselves.

Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:28 pm
by wpqx
My list seems poorly informed, based on arsaib's resources. I have tried picking up a few of the films on your regular list, so provided we have a similar taste in films (which occasionally we do) I might find a reason to modify my list. With any year though, my list seems constantly evolving. Even years I thought I had everything covered (2002 for example) I'm constantly finding new films and filmmakers to explore. It'll be awhile before I'm confortable with posting top tens for every year (1927-present), but that would be a very fascinating group of lists. We can debate the best films of last year fairly easily because everyone has seen a fair amount (at least 10 anyways), but I think it would be a lot more interesting arguing over the best films of 1958, just a thought.

Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:38 pm
by A
Hehe, I'm also trying to compile this, but from 1895 onwards. My biggest problem though, is that my taste has evolved during the last couple of years, and I'd probably need to rewatch some 3000+ films...
I just hope that my tastes won't have made a similar switch when I have watched a satisfying number of films. But my task actually isn't as difficult as it seems, because I am satisfied with a Top Ten, if it's full of "masterpieces" (imo of course): that means that I could theoretically watch ten films from 1933 next week, and if they bring me to my knees, the year is "done" (of course modifying still takes place with every new film I see). On the other hand I could see one hundred, and still have only 5 worthy of such a high ranking.
But so far I pretty much know myself and a bit of filmhistory, meaning that my guess on what I'll probably think of a film, even when I haven't seen it yet, is pretty close 70% of the time.

Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 3:39 am
by arsaib4
My list contains 7 films that are also on yours, wpqx, a fairly decent amount even though I've listed more.

French drama, Games of Love and Chance, which A also loves, just came out on DVD. Same with Claire Denis' The Intruder and Marco Bellocchio's Good Morning, Night, but you're probably aware of the latter two since they did very well at the end of the year. The Holy Girl and Rivette's The Story of Marie and Julien have been available for quite a while now. But don't overlook the two relatively unknown American films on my list: Lodge Kerrigan's Keane and Ira Sachs' Forty Shades of Blue.

Re: Top Ten (2005)

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 7:24 pm
by A
In fact i try to remember all of the film you recommend arsaib, as I value your taste very much. It also seems closest to mine from all the people on the board. But generally if someone recommends a film here, or writes a glowing review, I mark it down in my mind. My only "problem" is that I don't see nowhere as many new cinema releases as the rest of you. So I'll catch up with most of these films, but only god knows when.