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An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby Curt46n2 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:15 am

I know we are supposed to be talking about film on these message boards, but I couldn't help but wonder what your opinions on a certain subject are. I'm relatively new to this site, but I can tell that there are some incredibly intelligent non-condescending people here, and I'd like to hear what you have to say.

I'm sure that every person here (including me) thinks of film as an art form. But what about television? Is television driven too much by commercialism to achieve the creative levels that film has reached? Is it too focused on mass-market appeal?

I think that one of the reasons that television is not looked upon as art (at least not as much as movies, paintings, sculptures etc.) is the main thing that distinguishes it from film. So far there has been no pioneer, no D.W. Griffith to step forward with a vision for television. Nobody has realized its potential as an art form. Most TV is focused on entertaining the most amount of people possible to obtain the most amount of revenue possible.

Also, I'm just curious, what kind of television do you watch? What are your favorite shows? Mine are:
"Saved By the Bell" (That Screech is just hilarious with his pubescent voice crackling!)
"Pokemon" (Gotta catch 'em all! Pikachu is my favorite because it is the cutest)
"Sabrina the Teenage Witch" (Melissa Joan Hart is a superstar!)
Curt46n2
 


Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby aviv71 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 11:48 am

Curt...good question. Here's my take. Is TV art? Yes and no. Visually...not really with the exception of music videos and maybe some cable shows. But yes, there is a lot of written and spoken art. I consider comedy writing an artform. My favorite shows are The Simpsons, Letterman, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and, of course, Seinfield.
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Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby gimferrer » Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:04 pm

well Bergman always thought that is the best medium to reach an audience, you present a film on tv and then it's gone, no need to go through premieres and silly interviews around the globe anwering the same question.

David Lynch as well, Twin peaks it's trully exellent series and Mulholland Drive was meant to be a tv series but ended up in a feature.
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Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby somegreatmovies » Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:48 pm

Well I think the first 100 episodes of Homicide: Life on the Streets (Andre Braugher left on ep. 100) were pretty great. When I was making up my top ten list for the 90s I had to include the episode "Every Mother's Son," a truly brilliant hour of television. ...plus, Larry Sanders Beverly Hillbillies were pretty damn great.
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Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby somegreatmovies » Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:49 pm

Larry Sanders & Beverly Hillbillies, I mean
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Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby ygie » Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:30 pm

I rarely watch television. I just don't have time and when I do it's either Seinfield re-runs. The most interesting shows I have ever watched on tv had to be Twin Peaks. I also enjoyed watching a show called "Freaks and Geeks" which I believe aired on abc for one season, then they moved it to Fox Family.
ygie
 

Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby patsfan86 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:59 pm

I love football season(see patsfan86) especially the New England Patriots for the last 26 years so I love television on the weekends in the fall. With regards to television shows in the present there are none that have entertained me since Seinfeld, But I love the History Channel. To me the greatest show of all time is the Andy Griffith Show. It is absolutely timeless. Honorable mention goes to the Beverly Hillbillies, Sanford and Son, and In Search Of... I also love the Brit comedies like Keeping Up Appearances, the Thin Blue Line, Black Adder, and the Young Ones.
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Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby javajunkie75 » Wed Nov 13, 2002 1:29 am

Go patsfan86. They pulled it off on Sun., didn't they? Anyway, like alot of you here, I don't watch much TV (I'd rather read or watch a movie). However, I am a die hard Law & Order fan or A&E. And any show that has to do with Egypt and the Pyramids.

Ciao.

java
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Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby aviv71 » Wed Nov 13, 2002 11:29 am

For those of you who like Larry Sanders and Seinfield, don't miss Curb Your Enthusiasm on HBO. It's created by Jerry's partner Larry David. Very very good.
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Re: An Open Forum on the Most Looked-Down-Upon Medium

Postby Arletty » Fri Nov 15, 2002 4:22 am

Curt

Dennis Potter wrote novels, essays, stage plays, and movies but mainly focused on television, where his semi-autobiographical explorations into consciousness and memory led to innovations in drama. His masterpiece is "The Singing Detective" regarded by some as the best original work ever created for television. Also his "Cold "Track 29" "Christabel" "Pennies from Heaven" are all works worthy of viewing.
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