25 Greatest Films of All Time

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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby Dlosconos » Thu Sep 06, 2001 1:16 pm

What about Bunuel? L`Age de Or, Viridiana, Un Chien Andalou,Tristana etc.There is a lot of crap in the list, lake Kubrick and S.Ray.
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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby CCCSTAR » Mon Oct 15, 2001 9:52 pm

What about:

All About My Mother
Before Night Falls
Live Flesh
Raquiem for a Dream
Pie(as in mathimatical terms)
Run Lola Run
Amorres Perros
Chopper



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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby john-5 » Sun Dec 23, 2001 5:33 pm

You're right to be dubious about the AFI 100 (Which excluded Sunrise) and to include many of the films which have appeared in international polls. All of your list belong in a top 100. Having studied a huge number of polls in a range of countries, including Russia, Germany, Romania, Portugal, Belgium, as well as publications like Time Out, Sight and Sound (top 100 not just top 10)and Village Voice, i'm surprised you had Battleship Potemkin outside the 25.Greed, Balthazar and L'Avventura were probably the most questionable.A dificulty is trying to combine popular and critical opinion;Casablanca, Some Like it Hot, Singin' in the Rain The Godfather/Godfather 2 and It's a Wonderful Life do well in both sections.It's not clear that City Lights is more highly rated worldwide than The Gold Rush.I'm delighted that Sansho the Bailiff is doing so well in ForeignFilms' own poll-Mizoguchi should be much better known in English-speaking countries.I conducted a poll for a specialist world cinema company here in the U.K; THE TOP 20 was:Seven Samurai,The Third Man,Les Enfants du Paradis,Blade Runner, Casablanca, Cinema Paradiso, 2001:A Space Odyssey,Some Like it Hot,La Regle du Jeu,Brief Encounter,Three Colours Red,The Searchers, Les 400 Coups,Vertigo,The Seventh Seal,Battleship Potemkin,A Matter of Life and Death,Citizen Kane, La Grande Illusion, Double Indemnity.
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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby john-5 » Mon Dec 24, 2001 6:24 am

For further international opinion, try TOP 100 MOVIE LISTS on the net.Some poll results not included:
Portuguese critics (European films only),1994;Nosferatu, La Regle du Jeu,M, L'Atalante,Ivan the Terrible,Passion of Joan of Arc,The Blue Angel, Napoleon, Voyage to Italy,The Last Laugh...
Russian Critics,1995;Citizen Kane,Battleship Potemkin,Intolerance,8 1/2,Cabinet of Dr Caligari, Breathless, La Regle du Jeu,L'Atalante,Passion of Joan of Arc,Ivan the Terrible,Man with a Movie Camera, Mirror, Rashomon, Andrei Rublev..
German critics 1995;The Searchers,Taxi Driver,Vertigo, Night of the Hunter,Citizen Kane,Lawrence of Arabia, North by North West,Le Samourai, To Be or Not to Be, The Last Picture Show,Sunrise, Tokyo Story..
Romanian Critics,1995;Citizen Kane, The Gold Rush,Andrei Rublev,Wild Strawberries,8 1/2,Battleship Potemkin,The Passion of Joan of Arc,La Strada,L'Avventura,Blow Up..
Channel 4(u.k)poll of viewers,2001; Star Wars/Empire Strikes Back,The Godfather1&2,The Shawshank Redemption,Pulp Fiction,Some Like it Hot,Gladiator,It's a Wonderful Life,Blade Runner,Schindler's List,Goodfellas..
"Positif", French Critics,1991?;La Regle du Jeu,Citizen Kane,2001:A Space Odyssey,Vertigo,L'Atalante,8 1/2,Sunrise,Barry Lyndon,The General, Sansho the Bailiff...
Sight&Sound,1982;Citizen Kane,La Regle du Jeu,Seven Samurai,Singin in the Rain,8 1/2,Battleship Potemkin,L'Avventura,Magnificent Ambersons,Vertigo,The General,The Searchers,Andrei Rublev,Apu Trilogy,2001:A Space Odyssey...
(For what it's worth)My Favourites; Sansho the Bailiff,Paris Texas, Andrei Rublev,Sunrise,2001:A Space Odyssey,North by North West,Alice in the Cities,The Green Ray,Some Like it Hot,Abraham Valley,Seven Samurai,La Regle du Jeu,Mirror,Letter from an Unknown Woman,Vertigo, The Searchers,Maborosi,Casablanca,Tales of the Taira Clan,Metropolis,The Band Wagon,Singin in the Rain,Tokyo Story,Une Partie de Campagne,The Colour of Pomegranates, Persona...
I hope this helps.But even then, some films which do well in top 10 lists aren't necessarily universally liked.Average scores in Film Guides etc could also be borne in mind, along with selections of Classic Films in books and magazines.
The next Sight and Sound Poll,2002, will include more voters from nelected countries and areas of the world.Expect African, Asian and Latin American films to slowly filter through to international status in the coming decade.Lists till now have been rather Anglo and Euro-centric.
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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby Peter196783 » Mon Feb 04, 2002 12:41 pm

I AM SORRY BUT I STOPPED READING YOUR LIST AFTER SEEING "81/2" LISTED IN THE BEST LIST. TO ME THIS MOVIE REPRESENTS A NEW BRAND NEW GROUP OF BAD MOVIES - THE WORSE OF THE WORSE!
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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby Taxidr5091 » Sat Apr 13, 2002 12:35 am

I probably couldn't have done better myself! But I must say that I have a little trouble with "Citizen Kane" as being number 1. For some strange reason I really think that it is an overated film, and is now part of popular culture, which I think a great film should never be part of.
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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby J-Man » Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:54 am

That makes no sense to me, if noone knows about the film then how can it be possibily regarded as the greatest, plus C Kane isn't that popular, I mean not that many people have seen it.
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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby admin-2 » Fri Nov 08, 2002 6:46 pm

Thanks J-Man for bringing this to the top again!!!

For the record (only ten):

1. Citizen Kane (Orson Welles,1941) - Incredibly moving...artistically ravishing (and perfect!)...and a hell of a lot of fun!

2. The Rules of the Game (Jean Renoir, 1939) - We'll never find the missing 15 minutes (the original neg was destroyed), but still unforgettable. Walks a fine line between ridiculing its subjects and embracing them at the same time. Bravo!

3. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (Powell & Pressburger, 1943) - A propoganda film that travels BEYOND its place and time. A film about why we fight wars (for home, family and friends), instead why WE SHOULD fight wars (to beat, in this case, The Nazis). A heartbreakingly beautiful film and my choice for the UK's best.

4. Viridiana (Luis Buñuel, 1961)  - He made some masterpieces before and after this one, but I think this one is the only one that can be described as perfect!
 
5. Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, 1975) - Not my favourite Kubrick, but one I think is perfect. One should probably only see this film on a big screen, preferably with a large audience who WANTS to be there.

6. Cries and Whispers (Ingmar Bergman, 1972) - A sentimental favourite. It was the first Bergman I ever saw and it doesn't matter how many times I've seen it (20 and counting), it still has the power to both shock and amaze me. Best use of 'fades' in film history!
  
7. McCabe and Mrs Miller (Robert Altman, 1971) - Gorgeous! My favourite (anti) western. Has scenes in it that can only be described as "visual poetry". Altman's use of the 'zoom' to reveal character was never more appropriate or poignant. Masterful!

8. Sunrise (F.W. Murnau, 1927) - Visual pyrotechnics used to illustrate a story about ordinary people. Don't you wish he was still around to make a film about YOUR life.

9. Grand Illusion (Jean Renoir, 1937)  - A film that both Roosevelt and Mussolini loved. That's all that needs to be said, but I'll add that is is the most humane of all the films this greatest of humanist directors made. Deeply moving AND profound!

10. F for Fake (Orson Welles w/ Francois Reichenbach, 1973) - Orson Welles takes the editing room castoffs from a film he was supposed to just narrate, shoot some new footage, creates a tall tale or two, throws in a great Michel Legrand score (it's possible!), mixes it all in a blender and creates the best documentary about art ever attempted. So ahead of it's time that it looks like it was made yesterday!


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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby H20gateburgler » Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:46 am

When I first so CITIZEN KANE I thought, "well, that was nice enough, but what is the big deal" but I'm starting to come around on it a little bit. It is one of those movies I think you have to get away from for awhile and then spend some time with again because we are so OVERexposed to opinions and propaganda about it that you have to shut out the noise and watch it. Maybe I'll take another look at it, it has been awhile. One of the "greats" I doubt I'll ever change my mind on is "Bicycle Thief" - I give that a solid "Ho-Hum".
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Re: 25 Greatest Films of All Time

Postby bigpoppa_2059 » Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:11 am

As we've established, "favorite" and "Greatest" are different, so I think the greatest are:

Broken Blossoms (Griffith)
Vertigo (Hitchcock)
Touch of Evil (Welles)
Pierrot Le Fou (Godard)
The Searchers (Ford)
2001: A Space Oddyssey (Kubrick)
Battleship Potemkin (Eisenstein)
The Gold Rush (Chaplin)
La Dolce Vita (Fellini)
Schindler's List (Spielberg)
Raging Bull (Scorsese)
Ran (Kurosawa)
The Seventh Seal (Bergman)
Lawrence of Arabia (Lean)
The Third Man (Reed)
Some like it Hot (Wilder)
Grand Illusion (Renoir)
The Godfather (Coppola)
His Girl Friday (Hawks)
Jules and Jim (Truffaut)
The General (Keaton)
Metropolis (Lang)
A Man Escaped (Bresson)
Singing in the Rain (Donen)
Belle De Jour (Bunuel)
Trouble in Paradise (Lubistch)
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