Best films of the 90s

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Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby wpqx » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:56 pm

Did anyone actually see the sequel, I heard very awful things about it.

Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby A » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:34 am

Saw no point in watching it. I don't see how you could possibly make a sequel of it, anyway. The first one said everything there was to say. And without Paul Verhoeven Also I was never a fan of Sharon Stone, and her "sex-appeal" in the first one was imo nothing special. And I guess the 2nd installment just wants to make money on this premise.

Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby wpqx » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:34 pm

Luckily it was a horrible failure proving that sometimes Hollywood's moneymaking plans backfire gloriously.

Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby arsaib4 » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:04 am

A wonderful list, A. There are quite a few films on it that I'd also consider for mine -- though a few surprise me, especially because it's a best of the decade list: films like Home Alone 2, Dumb and Dumber, Maverick, City of Angels and a couple of others. Your love for Robert Zemeckis is also quite obvious.

Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby wpqx » Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:03 am

Well I've heard A rave about Maverick and City of Angels for years now so I can't say I'm too surprised about that, but we all have some personal favorites, and being of roughly the same age there are going to be slightly similar films that we just happened to grow up watching repeatedly, which might explain some of his pics. Although Home Alone 2 does have Tim Curry which makes it at least slightly better than the first.

Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby A » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:15 pm

Well, Dumb and Dumber is also on John's list, so I'm not alone
Yes, I have some rather "strange" choices that I've heard complaints about for several years, but I don't love them for nostalgic reasons as wpqx suggests. Perhaps something of it has to do with growing up with some titles (probably most with the Back to the Future series), but I have revisited many of them a lot of times (City of Angels and Maverick about 7 times?), and they are imo simply great films. City of Angels is for me probably the second best film of `98 (after The Thin Red Line), and if Wenders original version is anywhere near as good I would be delighted (still haven't seen it after all these years ) Home Alone 2 was great the last time I saw it, and before every rewatch I always think it's a guilty pleasure that has somehow managed to survive in my mind as a memorable experience - but, every time I watch it again, it's still adorable.
But heck, I can't understand why many people consider some other films to be great... I guess there are always oddball choices
And yes, mine is a list on which I try to put only films I consider to be especially great achievements in the art of filmmaking. So you'll have to marvel about some of the choices until I give you an in-depth analysis of a given title (that is if it ever happens )
Don't like Tim Curry in the second one that much, btw. (though it's always a pleasure watching him )

Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby arsaib4 » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:07 am

"And yes, mine is a list on which I try to put only films I consider to be especially great achievements in the art of filmmaking."

That's my kind of list.

I'm glad to hear that for the most part you do have genuine reasons to believe in those films. I could see Home Alone 2 being a guilty pleasure; I love the original, but probably not enough to be included on a list. City of Angels is certainly a good listen.

Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby A » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:17 pm

I really don't like these huge listings of "greatest" or "best" films, where the authors simply post all the films they remember to have liked in one way or another.
As I've said in another post, (almost) all listed films would be rated A - or better , though it's been a while with some of the titles. I'll keep the list updated. Maybe Home Alone 2 will drop out of it the next time I see it.

I've seen the first, Home Alone a couple of times, but I don't consider it as highly as the 2nd installment. But Macaulay Culkin is imo a revelation in it. It's always a pleasure to watch him in that one, and it's too bad he is nowhere as good in the other films...
I'll surely see it again sometime in the coming years, but it probably won't make my list.
Yes, I own the Soundtrack of City of Angels, too. Always a pleasure to listen to it, though I've heard it already hundreds of times. I actualy bought it before I watched the movie, because of Alanis Morissette's track (which I still love), but I was very disappointed with the other stuff - that is, until I saw the film. I even discovered one of my favorite musicians through the soundtrack and bought all of his CD's that were released until then. Too bad the song isn't played during the film.

Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby wpqx » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:02 pm

Well it would be great to offer some commentary on the films picked, but this is probably only possible with a small select list ie a top ten. Random listing gets repetitive. Funny though last time I saw the first Home Alone (playing in a Best Buy nonstop before christmas) I actually recognized the neighborhood it was shot in, things like that always get my attention. I loved City of Angels the first time I saw it, but it lost some of its magic after I saw Wings of Desire which I consider a far, far better film. Not sure if you'll have a similar reaction.

Re: Best films of the 90s

Postby wpqx » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:28 am

Well here's my list. I'll try and add some commentary if possible, but of course some films haven't been seen in a long time.

Ju Dou (China/Japan - Zhang Yimou)
Twin Peaks: Pilot Episode (US - David Lynch)
Mo' Better Blues (US - Spike Lee)
Goodfellas (US - Martin Scorsese)
Dances With Wolves (US - Kevin Costner)
Ghost (US - Jerry Zucker)
Bullet in the Head (Hong Kong - John Woo)

Terminator 2: Judgment Day (US - James Cameron)
Europa Europa (France/Germany/Poland - Agnieszka Holland)
JFK (US - Oliver Stone)
Raise the Red Lantern (China/Hong Kong/Taiwan - Zhang Yimou)
Barton Fink (US - Joel and Ethan Coen)
Silence of the Lambs (US - Jonathan Demme)
The Fisher King (US - Terry Gilliam)
Van Gogh (France - Maurice Pialat)
A Brighter Summer Day (Taiwan - Edward Yang)

Malcolm X (US - Spike Lee)
Reservoir Dogs (US - Quintin Tarantino)
Unforgiven (US - Clint Eastwood)
Hard Boiled (Hong Kong - John Woo)
Wayne's World (US - Penelope Spheeris)
Rebels of the Neon God (Taiwan - Tsai Ming Liang)
Dead Alive (New Zealand - Peter Jackson)
Bram Stoker's Dracula (US - Francis Ford Copola)
Bad Lieutenant (US - Abel Ferara)

Dazed and Confused (US - Richard Linklater)
Schindler's List (US - Steven Spielberg)
Groundhog Day (US - Harold Ramis)
Visions of Light: The Art of Cinematography (US/Japan - Stuart Samuels, Arnold Glassman, Todd McCarthy, Andrew Glassman)
Carlito's Way (US - Brian De Palma)

To Live (China - Zhang Yimou)
Pulp Fiction (US - Quintin Tarantino)
Baseball (US - Ken Burns)
Natural Born Killers (US - Oliver Stone)
Quiz Show (US - Robert Redford)
Shawshank Redemption (US - Frank Darabont)
Forrest Gump (US - Robert Zemeckis)
Chungking Express (Hong Kong - Wong Kar Wai)
Heavenly Creatures (New Zealand - Peter Jackson)
Satantango (Germany/Hungary/Austria - Bela Tarr)
71 Fragments of a Chronology of Chance (Austria/Germany - Michael Haneke)
Through the Olive Trees (Iran - Abbas Kiarostami)
Burnt by the Sun (France/Russia - Nikita Mikhaltov)

Before Sunrise (US - Richard Linklater)
Toy Story (US - John Lasseter)
Ulysses Gaze (Greece/France/Italy - Theo Angelopoulos)
Underground (France/Germany/Hungary - Emir Kustirica)
Fallen Angels (Hong Kong - Wong Kar Wai)
Casino (US - Martin Scorsese)
The Beatles Anthology (UK - Bob Smeaton)
Kids (US - Larry Clark)
Clockers (US - Spike Lee)

Fargo (US - Joel and Ethan Coen)
Gabbeh (Iran - Mohsen Makhmalbaf)
When We Were Kings (US - Leon Gast)
Lone Star (US - John Sayles)
The Celluloid Closet (US - Robert Epstein, Jeffrey Friedman)
Forgotten Silver (New Zealand - Peter Jackson, Costa Botes)
The Pillow Book (UK/France/Netherlands - Peter Greenaway)
The Battle Over Citizen Kane (US - Michael Epstein, Thomas Lennon)
Irma Vep (France - Olivier Assayas)
Les Voleurs Thieves (France - Andre Techine)

LA Confidential (US - Curtis Hansen)
Boogie Nights (US - Paul Thomas Anderson)
Titanic (US - James Cameron)
Happy Together (Hong Kong - Wong Kar Wai)
Deconstructing Harry (US - Woody Allen)
Princess Mononoke (Japan - Hayao Miyazaki)
Lost Highway (US/France - David Lynch)

Saving Private Ryan (US - Steven Spielberg)
Thin Red Line (US - Terence Malick)
Rushmore (US - Wes Anderson)
Flowers of Shanghai (Japan/Taiwan - Hou Hsaio-Hsien)
John Leguizamo's Freak (US - Spike Lee)
After Life (Japan - Hirokazu Kore-eda)
Run Lola Run (Germany - Tom Tykwer)
The Mirror (Iran - Jafar Panahi)

Magnolia (US - Paul Thomas Anderson)
Fight Club (US - David Fincher)
Toy Story 2 (US - John Lasseter, Lee Unkrich, Ash Brannon)
South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut (US - Trey Parker)
American Beauty (US - Sam Mendes)
Three Kings (US - David O'Russell)
Election (US - Alexander Payne)
The Emperor and the Assassin (China/Japan/France - Chen Kaige)
The Matrix (US - Andy and Larry Wachowski)
Bringing Out the Dead (US - Martin Scorsese)
The Hurricane (US - Norman Jewison)
The Iron Giant (US - Brad Bird)

*Edit for Burnt by the Sun and Through the Olive Trees


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