BEST OF 2004

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BEST OF 2004

Postby arsaib4 » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:58 am

Before we move onto our 2005 lists, I think we should resubmit the ones from last year since they were lost.

TOP 15

1. Goodbye Dragon Inn (Bu san) - Tsai Ming-liang / Taiwan

2. Time of the Wolf (Le Temps du loup) - Michael Haneke / France

3. Dogville - Lars von Trier / Denmark

4. Birth - Jonathan Glazer / U.S.

5. Son Frre - Patrice Chreau / France

6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Michel Gondry / U.S.

7. Last Life in the Universe (Ruang Rak noi nid Mahasan)
- Pen-Ek Ratanaruang / Thailand

8. Notre Musique - Jean-Luc Godard / France

9. The Twilight Samurai (Tasogare Seibei) - Yoji Yamada / Japan

10.The Village - M. Night Shyamalan / U.S.

11.Moolaad - Ousmane Sembene / Senegal

12.The Brown Bunny - Vincent Gallo / U.S.

13.Crimson Gold (Talaye Sorgh) - Jafar Panahi / Iran

14.Kill Bill: Volume 2 - Quentin Tarantino / U.S.

15.Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
(Bom yeoreum gaeul gyeoul geurigo bom) - Kim Ki-duk / S.Korea

(alphabetical order only)

Alexander - Oliver Stone / U.S.-Germany

Almost Peaceful (Un Monde presque paisible)
- Michel Deville / France

Bad Education (La Mala Educacin) - Pedro Almodvar / Spain

Before Sunset - Richard Linklater / U.S.

Free Radicals (Bse Zellen) - Barbara Albert / Austria

Hellboy - Guillermo del Toro / U.S.

The Inheritence (Arven) - Peter Fly / Denmark

Million Dollar Baby - Clint Eastwood / U.S.

Outskirts (Okraina) - Pyotr Lutsik / Russia

Persons of Interest - Alison Maclean & Tobias Perse - U.S.

Raja - Jacques Doillon / France-Morocco

Springtime in a Small Town (Xiao cheng zhi chun)
- Tian Zhuangzhuang / China

Strayed (Les gars) - Andr Tchin / France

Tokyo Godfathers - Satoshi Kon / Japan

The Woodsman - Nicole Kassell / U.S.

Honorable Mention
(alphabetical order only)

Alila - Amos Gitai / Israel

Baadasssss! - Mario Van Peebles / U.S.

The Big Red One: The Reconstruction - Samuel Fuller / U.S.

Blind Shaft (Mang Jing) - Li Yang / China

Bon Voyage - Jean-Paul Rappeneau / France

Bright Future (Akarui Mirai) - Kiyoshi Kurosawa / Japan

Dawn of the Dead - Zack Snyder / U.S.

The Five Obstructions - Lars von Trier & Jrgen Leth / Denmark

Going Upriver: The Long War of John Kerry - George Butler / U.S.

I Heart Huckabees - David O. Russell / U.S.

The Incredibles - Brad Bird / U.S.

Loving Glances (Sjaj u Ocima) - Srdjan Karanovic
/ Serbia & Montenegro

Maria Full of Grace - Joshua Marston / U.S.-Columbia

Reconstruction - Christoffer Boe / Denmark

The Return (Vozvrashcheniye) - Andrei Zvyagintsev / Russia

Sex Is Comedy - Catherine Breillat / France

Shaun of the Dead - Edgar Wright / U.K.

Silent Waters (Khamosh Pani) - Sabiha Sumar / Pakistan

A Talking Picture (Um Filme Falado) - Manoel de Oliveira / Portugal

Viva Laldjrie - Nadir Moknche / Algeria



Re: BEST OF 2004

Postby wpqx » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:32 pm

Well I know I'll forget something, and honestly I still don't think I've seen all that I'd have liked to, but here's a rough top15. I wasn't positive about the release of Tarnation, but I saw it on enough top tens of the year to count it, and remember Hero didn't come out here until August of 2004.

1. The Incredibles (Bird)
2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry)
3. The Saddest Music in the World (Maddin)
4. Dogville (Von Trier)
5. Hero (Yimou)
6. Million Dollar Baby (Eastwood)
7. Kill Bill Vol. 2 (Tarantino)
8. Sideways (Payne)
9. Vera Drake (Leigh)
10. House of Flying Daggers (Yimou)
11. Moolaade (Sembene)
12. Tarnation (Caouette)
13. Closer (Nichols)
14. Before Sunset (Linklater)
15. Baadasssss (Van Peebles)

Re: BEST OF 2004

Postby A » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:19 pm

Oh what a great List arsaib! I haven't seen all of the films you listed, but most are on my personal to see list. Here in Germany we don't get such a variety of foreign films at the cinemas.
And some of the films you and wpqx listed will appear on my 2005 list.
Sadly I've lost my 2004 list, so I'll have to make one from memory and a year's distance.

Re: BEST OF 2004

Postby A » Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:26 pm

2004 was a great year for me, and I still haven't seen all the films I wanted. Here's my Top 20 (theatrical releases only!), favorites in bold.

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004 / Michel Gondry /
2. Marseille (2004 / Angela Schanelec / Germany)
3. Frau fhrt, Mann schlft (2004 / Rudolf Thome / Germany)
4. Los lunes al sol "Mondays in the Sun" (2002 / Fernando Len de Aranoa / Spain, Italy, France)
5. Elephant (2003 / Gus Van Sant / USA)
6. 21 Grams (2003 / Alejandro Gonzlez Irritu / USA)
7. Before night falls (2000 / Julian Schnabel / USA)
8. Birth (2004 / Jonathan Glazer / USA)
9. Before Sunset (2004 / Richard Linklater / USA)
10. 5 x 2 (2004 / Franois Ozon / France)
11. Schussangst "Gun-shy" (2003 / Dito Tsintsadze / Germany)
12. The Station Agent (2003 / Thomas McCarthy / USA)
13. Tierra "Land" (1996 / Julio Medem / Spain)
14. Rokugatsu no hebi "A Snake of June" (2002 / Shinya Tsukamoto / Japan)
15. Gegen die Wand "Head-on" (2004 / Fatih Akin / Germany, Turkey)
16. Open Range (2003 / Kevin Costner / USA)
17. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003 / Peter Weir / USA)
18. Oldboy (2003 / Chan-wook Park / South Korea)
19. Bad Santa (2003 / Terry Zwigoff / USA, Germany)
20. Lost in Translation (2003 / Sofia Coppola / USA, Japan)

Honorable Mention:

Muxmuschenstill (2004 / Marcus Mittermeier / Germany)
Agnes und seine Brder (2004 / Oskar Roehler / Germany)
Rhythm is it! (2004 / Thomas Grube, Enrique Sanchez Lansch / Germany)
Ken Park (2002 / Larry Clark, Edward Lachman / USA, Netherlands, France)
Osama (2003 / Siddiq Barmak / Afghanistan, Netherlands, Japan, Ireland, Iran)
Cold Mountain (2003 / Anthony Minghella / USA)
The Dreamers (2003 / Bernardo Bertolucci / Italy, France, UK)

Re: BEST OF 2004

Postby arsaib4 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:37 am

Thank for the lists, guys.

One film that I was terribly disappointed in was 5x2, which is on your top list, A. What made it stand out for you?

Re: BEST OF 2004

Postby A » Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:01 am

I like all of Ozons films and his directorial style, so my expectations for the film were quite high. But while watching it I was very disappointed to see all these uninteresting people having uninteresting conversations, being more or less fake, and out of touch with themselves and their surroundings. And while the film went on everything became more and more dull and pointless. The story told in reverse, the end at the beginning, and their beginning at the end, you saw life stations of the protagonists, basically everything that went wrong with them, their small and big lies, their misconceptions of others and themselves, etc. The ending was the protagonists first encounter at a beach with a beautiful sunset, a parody of the terrible things to come, and because the viewer had already witnessed them, I couldn't help to be repulsed by the people, and the filmmakers seemingly cynical attitude.
But after reflecting upon the film, the meaning of its structure, and Ozon's intentions, I discovered the purpose of all this for myself. Like all Ozon films it is about liberation from the boundaries that we ourselves and our society sets us, and the path to self-discovery and -understanding. The beginning of the film shows us exactly this. Valeria Bruni Tedeschi walks out on her husband after a horrible last encounter and the preceding divorce, ay woman who has been through hell, but has freed herself from it- and a hell she has helped to build up herself! In the course of the film we see how it had come to this point. Like in all Ozon films, the director doesn't comment on the events, shows them like an observer, doesn't judge the persons, the viewer has to actively ingage in the film and develop his standpoint, but in the end gives his moral statement through the work as a whole. Everything you have to know is there, but you have to connect the dots by yourself. An uncompromising dissection of the (french) middle-class, that confronts the exasperated viewer with a devastating account of a group of ordinary people, who's false pretences have nearly crushed their lives, that leaves a bitter aftertaste, but is ultimately rewarding. Though the conclusions everybody draws may differ, nobody wants to experience any of this by themselves. In the end Ozon has, through the depiction of everyday occurrences, succeded in confronting the people with themselves , and if necessary, to rethink their life.

Re: BEST OF 2004

Postby arsaib4 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:33 pm

Like in all Ozon films, the director doesn't comment on the events, shows them like an observer, doesn't judge the persons, the viewer has to actively ingage in the film and develop his standpoint, but in the end gives his moral statement through the work as a whole. Everything you have to know is there, but you have to connect the dots by yourself.

That's an interesting comment. I wrote somewhere that "I think the positive remarks have come from those who are willing to let their minds run amok during the space Ozon doesn't allow us to access." Basically, I was willing to draw the lines if there were enough "dots" there. Ozon gave us the big moments: wedding night, birth of a child, divorce, etc., but I found it difficult to access the instances (in my mind, I guess) that led to their demise.

Re: BEST OF 2004

Postby A » Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:49 am

I think the main problem was, that the protagonists weren't honest to themselves. They didn't talk about their desires, what they really wanted, but tried to play by established "rules". They were constantly cheating on each other, because they couldn't talk openly.

Re: BEST OF 2004

Postby trevor826 » Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:43 pm

Great to read a bit of indepth analysis of 5x2. I didn't think much of it myself but it's good to read the opinion of someone who obviously got more from it than I did.

My problem, by the time the film ended, I disliked both parties and didn't really care what became of them.

Cheers Trev.

Re: BEST OF 2004

Postby Sara » Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:52 pm

I would vote for

The Station Agent
Bad Education
Twilight Samurai
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring
The Return (are we sure that was 2004 and not 2003?)
Kill Bill 2

And one that nobody has mentioned:

Les Choristes (The Chorus)

Read about it here:



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